GUIDE
The Strategic CISO Playbook
How five security leaders turned risk constraints into business advantage
Read the guide to learn how to:
Run security as a profit center. Tie every dollar to revenue the business can measure.
Replace questionnaires with evidence. Publish real proof and let buyers serve themselves.
Build a security culture beyond the security team. Make security everyone’s job through champions.
Diagnose your real constraints before you act. Name what is actually in your way.
Use AI and continuous monitoring to do more with less. Put AI where the work is repetitive and the evidence is verifiable.
Who it’s for:
CISOs, CIOs, Heads of GRC, and security and compliance leaders who want to prove security’s business value, not just pass the next audit.
Featured security leaders
Dave Brown
CISO and CIO, Andesite and Author of The Lean CISO
Myke Lyons
CISO, Cribl
Jon Zayicek
Former Customer Security Assurance Leader, Cribl
Lori Kevin
VP, Security & Compliance, IMO Health
Matthew Martin
CISO, Western Carolina University
The Strategic CISO Playbook
How five leaders turned risk constraints into business advantage
Table of contents
Introduction: The End of the Checkbox
Sravish Sridhar, TrustCloud
Part 1: Run Security as a Profit Center
Dave Brown, Andesite
Part 2: Replace Questionnaires with Evidence
Myke Lyons and Jon Zayicek, Cribl
Part 3: Build a Security Culture Beyond the Security Team
Lori Kevin, IMO Health
Part 4: Creativity Within Constraints
Matthew Martin, Western Carolina University
Introduction: The end of the checkbox
Sravish Sridhar, TrustCloud
I started the Strategic CISOs conversation series for a simple reason. I kept meeting security leaders who ran security as a way to help the business grow, not just a way to pass the audit, and I wanted more people to hear how they did it.
For years, GRC programs operated with a point-in-time model. That may have been adequate when environments were stable and change was slow. Neither is true now. Every new AI agent, every integration, and every vendor widens the risk surface faster than an annual review can check.
Each of them runs their program differently, and they do it while working under real constraints. Dave Brown had to run his program like a profit center, proving every dollar he spent was tied to future revenue. The team at Cribl was buried under security questionnaires. Lori Kevin needed to cultivate a security culture across the whole business. Matt Martin walked into higher education with a fraction of the budget he was used to. Four very different problems, and in every case the constraint became the reason they built something better.
I am grateful for what each of them was willing to share, and for how candid these conversations have been. The common thread across all four is trust: once they were able to see risk continuously, they could bring business stakeholders into the process and clearly demonstrate the business value of trust.
That is what this series is for. Real conversations with the leaders redefining the CISO role. Here are my top lessons from the Strategic CISOs series, and the playbook you can borrow from all of them.
“I have started thinking about the CISO role in terms of a historian and a navigator. A historian can tell you in detail what risk used to look like. The leaders in this series wanted to navigate: to see risk as it forms and steer clear before it becomes an incident. That is what cyber risk assurance makes possible: a posture that is current, not accurate as of last quarter.”
Sravish Sridhar
Founder and CEO, TrustCloud
Part 1
Run Security as a Profit Center
Dave Brown, CISO and CIO, Andesite
- Do I understand how this business actually makes money?
- How can the security program help it make more?
- Revenue: Up ↑
- Costs: Flat or falling ↓
- Overall risk: Down ↓
When security operates as a profit center, its influence on all three of these is visible. The overall risk picture, where most CISOs focus, is only one of these important metrics to track.When Dave joined Andesite, he spent his first 90 days working to understand the business and its inner workings, mapping security objectives to organizational objectives. He wanted stakeholders to see security as a vital part of business operations. In his own worked example, Dave put roughly 150,000 dollars into the compliance priorities that opened specific markets, against a pipeline of about 3 million dollars, and closed 1.5 million of it. Pitched in those terms, that spend is an investment the finance team can weigh like any other. Transparency is essential here. Rather than answering the same security questionnaires deal after deal, Andesite gives buyers a real-time view of its posture, and that changes how fast deals move.
“When a customer asks about our security posture, we don’t send them a 200-question spreadsheet. We give them a real-time view of our compliance and controls. That transparency shortens deal cycles.”
Dave Brown
CISO and CIO, Andesite
The payoff shows up everywhere once you start measuring it. Using a trust center, Andesite cut questionnaire turnaround from three or four weeks down to three or four days. Automating evidence collection took a task that used to run about 50 minutes per control down to seconds. And Dave watches what customers actually download, because a document nobody opens is a signal to stop spending time maintaining it.
“That’s what allows our team to optimize budget. Not just spend more, but spend smarter.”
Dave Brown
CISO and CIO, Andesite
Dave’s lesson for any security leader is to focus on order of operations. Learn the business first. Tie the program to outcomes the business already cares about. Then report those outcomes the way every other function reports results. Do that, and the business will credit security for growth it can measure.
Part 2
Replace Questionnaires with Evidence
Myke Lyons, CISO, and Jon Zayicek, former Customer Security Assurance Leader, Cribl
Nobody enjoys the security questionnaire. At TrustCloud, we like to say, “Friends don’t send friends security questionnaires.” Jon Zayicek believes that wholeheartedly. But behind the joke is a serious argument. A questionnaire is a survey-driven way to assess risk, a low-trust exchange of high-stakes information that buries both sides in manual work. Cribl set out to replace the questionnaire with something better. In doing so, they turned the assurance team into one of the most measurable revenue contributors in the company.
“We decided to be transparent, and it’s really worked out well for us.”
Jon Zayicek, former Customer Security Assurance Leader, Cribl
Transparency does two jobs at once: fewer questions, more trust.
Jon estimates that approximately 80% of closed-won deals go through his assurance team. When a buyer needs to judge the risk of working with Cribl, this is the team that answers. The team tracks it the way a revenue function tracks pipeline: share of deals touched, SLA turnaround on questionnaires, and cycle time. Two years ago a questionnaire could take them four to six weeks to complete. Now most turn around in about two days, sometimes 24 hours, because they put AI on the highest-volume, lowest-risk work first: drafting questionnaire answers from a maintained knowledge base.
The Questionnaire
Send a questionnaire
Four to six weeks
Low-trust exchange
A document you send
Invisible to sales
The Trust Experience
Publish real evidence
Days, sometimes 24 hours
Continuous, verifiable evidence
A portal, refreshed monthly
Logins flag buying intent
“Every business is being asked to do things with AI. This is absolutely the most no-brainer opportunity for you to provide value back to your business.”
Myke Lyons
CISO, Cribl
Myke Lyons, Cribl’s CISO, reframes compliance itself along the same lines. He treats each new attestation as a pipeline-generating decision, evaluated on the potential market it unlocks rather than the boxes it checks.
In other words, GRC becomes RGC: revenue-generating compliance, not governance for its own sake.
“Make the trust portal not just ‘we really take security seriously in the company.’ Of course you do. Give some substance to your trust portal.”
Myke Lyons
CISO, Cribl
Assurance wired into sales gets noticed. Assurance off to the side gets overlooked.There is a further horizon. TrustCloud is building toward assessments that run agent to agent, a third-party risk tool on one side talking to the vendor’s system on the other, with far less human handling in between. That is coming. What a team can do today does not wait on it. Cribl’s advantage came from moves any organization can make now: evidence a buyer can reach without asking, and an assurance function wired into the sales motion to drive revenue.
MEASURED ON QUESTIONNAIRES CLEARED
MEASURED ON REVENUE SUPPORTED
Part 3
Build a Security Culture Beyond the Security Team
Lori Kevin, VP of Security and Compliance, IMO Health
Lori Kevin leads with a strong conviction: a security culture across the business cannot be built by the security team alone. She has spent six years working through that at IMO Health, and her starting point makes all the difference. It begins with values.
“Trust is the foundation of everything my team does. We’re building a security function around the core values of trust, accessibility, clarity, and strong communication. We want the whole organization to know how to access security policies and see the strategic value security offers to their department.”
Lori Kevin
VP of Security and Compliance, IMO Health
Lori arrived in cybersecurity through customer support, operations, and the software side of the business, and she draws on all those experiences in her current role. Those insights help her translate risk into terms the rest of the business already understands.
“I haven’t just been in security. I’ve really been in the weeds of software development and customer support, and that’s helped me evolve a security approach that’s transformative and looks at it through a business lens too.”
Lori Kevin
VP of Security and Compliance, IMO Health
Everyone brings different strengths, and a leader’s job is to recognize them instead of making everyone fit the same mold. That’s important in security, where teams separate into silos or lean too hard on a few key people. She is candid that she was not good at letting go when she started, and she credits her team for telling her when it is time.
“I want my team to kick me out of meetings,” Lori says. The growth she cares about happens when people step up and take ownership.
“The more that I am involved, the less development opportunity there is for the team. That is where trust comes in for me. If I keep stepping in, I get in the way of someone else being able to develop. As managers, our job is to create those opportunities so our teams can explore and grow.”
Lori Kevin
VP of Security and Compliance, IMO Health
Her approach to reporting is to think the way leadership thinks and translate everything into risk language, focusing on the risk, why it matters to the business, and what her team is doing about it. She treats those updates as an ongoing dialogue layered on top of a set reporting rhythm.
“Conversations with executive leadership cannot be overly technical. You have to figure out what story will actually lead to action. For me, that means framing things from a risk perspective, because that’s what’s going to resonate.”
Lori Kevin
VP of Security and Compliance, IMO Health
My favorite security initiative from IMO Health is its security champions program. Most champions programs work closely with product and engineering teams, and Lori does that too, because secure development is non-negotiable. But she refused to stop there. Her program runs more than 30 champions across an organization of roughly 350 people, pulled deliberately from marketing, admins, HR, and the individual-contributor ranks, not only managers.
The best delegation move a security leader makes is getting out of the way.
Champions were asked, never volun-told. The forum rarely has an agenda. And the culture shows up in small, human ways: when someone spots a simulated phishing test and fires her a screenshot, their running joke is “not today, Lori.”
That reach, from product all the way to HR, is what turns security from one team’s mandate into shared ownership of risk across the company
Starting a security champions program
- SIZE IT PROPORTIONALLY
~1 in 10, weighted to product and engineering - RECRUIT BY INVITATION
Source names from leaders and team, never volun-tell - OPEN WITH A KICKOFF
Set the mission, purpose, and time ask up front - KEEP THE FORUM LOOSE
Members bring topics and host discussions - GAMIFY PARTICIPATION
Phishing leaderboards, quizzes, small rewards - RENEW ANNUALLY
Members stay or nominate a successor, seats rotate - HAND OFF THE RUNNING
Move day-to-day ownership to the GRC team
Part 4
Creativity Within Constraints
Matthew Martin, Chief Information Security and Privacy Officer, Western Carolina University
I first knew Matt as the leader who spends his own time flying to Ghana and Uganda to share cybersecurity expertise with executives and students, work that began with a cyber resiliency conference in Accra and grew into an ongoing nonprofit partnership. That instinct, more than any tool or certification, is the key to how he leads.
After two decades running security in financial services, where budget requests were typically granted, Matt made a deliberate choice to lead security at a university. He wanted to test his belief that strong security fundamentals hold even in an environment where the budget, the team, and the operating model vary greatly from the enterprise. He calls the approach creativity within constraints, and the first thing he learned was that he was focusing on the wrong constraint.
“I thought I was dealing with constraints around dollars. It turned out the dollar constraint was actually one of the smaller constraints.”
Matt Martin
CISO, Western Carolina University
The real constraint was the environment itself. Faculty don’t all report to the CISO, departments run themselves, and a university built on open, shared knowledge can feel like family. That culture creates genuine trust, and it means security has to be designed to work with how the place already runs. You cannot mandate your way through it. You build through influence. Matt shared that his early mistake was trying to fix before he understood.
Eventually he stepped back to listen and learn first: sit with the environment, ask how things actually work, and document before changing anything. Listening first also showed him where he could streamline without piling new work on anyone. Access, for instance, was being approved one person at a time rather than by role or use case. Moving to use cases made the program consistent, auditable, and defensible.
On the perennial question of where to start, risk or compliance, he does not hesitate.
“If you do risk well, compliance comes almost for free.”
Matt Martin
CISO, Western Carolina University
Start with a real risk register and name an owner for each risk. That gives you a shared language for every conversation with leadership, and it maps each risk to the person accountable for retiring it. You also make those owners part of the solution, because the solution belongs to the person who raised the problem.
Capacity was the next honest constraint. Matt cannot hire a team of analysts to test every control or spend weeks each year on a self-assessment, so automation is the only way he can get reliable evidence on every control.
“I can’t go hire a team of risk analysts. The only way I could do that was to embrace technology.”
Matt Martin
CISO, Western Carolina University
He leaned hard into automation and continuous monitoring. It spared his small team the manual evidence collection, and more than that, it gave him continuous visibility into whether a control was actually working, ground truth instead of opinions that changed depending on who he asked. Once the testing was in place, the payoff went beyond cleaner attestation.
“With that testing in place, we can see when things aren’t working when they’re supposed to be, and we’re having better conversations.”
Matt Martin
CISO, Western Carolina University
Automate to get ground truth, not opinions that change with who you ask.
Higher ed’s tighter budgets sharpened a discipline Matt would send back to his own enterprise days: before buying, ask whether a three-million-dollar feature is really three million dollars better than what you already own.
The mindset matters as much as the mechanics. Matt’s advice to anyone stepping into a resource-constrained role is to be part of the community you serve, understand the real risks rather than the ones on paper, and lean on automation to clear the manual work. Beyond that, it comes down to temperament. You have to want to get your hands dirty, be creative enough to build what isn’t the industry standard, see the businessenablement side of the job and not only the technical one, and hold the mission loosely.
“If you come in and you’re like 100% security or bust, you won’t last long in higher ed.”
Matt Martin
CISO, Western Carolina University
The Playbook: Five Moves That Define a Strategic CISO
Although these leaders are working in very different environments, with different constraints, five similar threads show up in each one.
- Align to business objectives before security objectives.
Spend your first months learning how the organization actually succeeds, then map your program to support those objectives. Dave Brown’s profit center math and first-90-days discipline both start here. - Prove value with evidence, not survey-driven attestation.
Publish real proof and let buyers serve themselves, the way Cribl and Andesite do. Replace the questionnaire with a trust center and back “we take security seriously” with artifacts anyone can verify. - Make security everyone’s job through champions.
A high regard for security doesn’t spread on its own. Lori Kevin’s champions program, built across marketing, HR, and admins, turns security into a habit in every business unit. - Understand your real constraints before you act.
Listen before you fix, move from one-off decisions to repeatable use cases, and name an owner for every risk. Compliance follows almost for free. - Use AI and continuous monitoring to do more with less.
Continuous monitoring proves a control is operating and maps it to the risk it mitigates, so you see risk continuously instead of once a year. It’s the backbone that makes the other four moves sustainable.
The connective tissue across all five is trust: trust made measurable, so security drives the business instead of chasing it. The strategic CISO is the leader who turns whatever they’ve been handed into an advantage for the business, and brings the whole company along.
Of these five moves, which one could you put into practice next?
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